Rob Willis: 

Yeah. At those early stages, was there this flair for doing what you do, I'll put it that way, with doing unusual things so that it just stood out? 

Judi Summers: 

It started off with Claire and Lindy doing the surveillance. Yeah. Right? And then taking other nannas out doing surveillance. But then soon after that we, I think it was Clare, decided that we were going to sit outside our local MP Thomas George's office. And the creative part that came into that was Clare, he's got this, he had this life-size photograph of himself in the window like a transfer. Claire started dressing him up. Each week was a different thing. 

And it was like every Thursday morning, there we were, dressing up Thomas, doing our knitting, talking to people. And it just took a hold really quickly. And Thomas used to get really irate. And his PA used to come out and tell us to bugger off. Thomas is doing everything to support this community. Anyway. 

Rob Willis: 

And you would just knit and smile? 

Judi Summers: 

Yeah, just knit and smile. We'd plot, we'd sort of come up with ideas and what we wanted to do and, you know, where we were going to do the next blockade. And then that was sort of the start of things.

Ann-Mari Jordens: 

Did you get your pay? I mean, were you paid directly? 

Judith Stubbs: 

Oh no. I was being paid ten pound a week which was a lot of money in those days. No, five pound a week sorry. Four pound of that was going in board to the Home, that was going, I didn't see any, I don't know how much money I was given to, to spend, but I never got any of that money. Even when I went through Tech college there, the Rotary, the local Rotary club paid for that. But in my finals, I had to pay for that out of my earnings. 

Ann-Mari Jordens: 

So they were double dipping? 

Judith Stubbs: 

Yes, and I've got proof of that. Um, but on my eighteenth birthday I said, I'm out of here. And you were always told that you go, you never come back, you don't come back here.